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I LOATHE that Scene: Flying Makes Lois Feels Poetic in Superman

There are film scenes that we love, and there are scenes that we loathe (or hate). As such, we like to celebrate the good ones and shame the bad ones. Today, it’s time to talk about a bad one. This is the scene from Superman that causes us to involuntarily exclaim “I LOATHE That Scene!” whenever it is brought up in conversation, and that’s only if we’re being nice.

THE FILM: Superman (1978)

THE PLOT:

You will believe a man can fly, or at least be horizontal in front of a moving backdrop in Richard Donner’s Superman, the film that showed Hollywood that superhero films could dominate the box office. It was a kinder, gentler time, when superheroes were hardly the safe bets they are today. How quaint it must seem for there to have been a time in which cigar-smoking, Hollywood moguls didn’t see instant dollar signs when presented with the latest tights-sporting, wunderkind. I don’t want to be too hard on the film. I like it fine, although I think Superman II is better. For 1978, the special effects were ground breaking, and both Christopher Reeve and Margot Kidder are perfectly cast as the titular Superman and plucky reporter/ love interest, Lois Lane. The film works best when it allows these two incredibly charismatic leads room to charm the viewer, which they seem capable to do almost effortlessly, and play their roles like they’re in an old-fashioned romance.

"So, your Fortress of Solitude or mine?"
“So, your Fortress of Solitude or mine?”

The main plot revolves around Lex Luther and his plot to make a fortune in real estate (truly, the most insidious of venues) by sinking parts of California, through physics best left unexplored. The threat’s barely an issue, though, when you can just fly around the world really, really fast and reverse time.

(FOR EVERYTHING BELOW: SPOILERS AHEAD. READ AT YOUR OWN RISK. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.)

THE CONTEXT OF THE SCENE:

Superman has come to Lois Lane’s apartment for an exclusive interview, allowing Kidder and Reeve to do what they do best: act as though they’ve been cast in a screwball comedy. Eventually, though, Superman decides the only way to cap an interview is to take your interviewer for midnight flight, leading to Lois’s iconic line, “you’ve got me. Who’s got you?”

"And, what's going on down there?"
“And, what’s going on down there?”

If that was where the spoken dialogue ended, all would be well and it would be a lovely, charming sequence. Alas, what follows is a sequence so mind-numblingly awkward it defies all logic and inspires embarrassment in fan that ever proclaimed a comic book poetry.

THE SCENE:

WHY I LOATHE IT:

Where do you want me to begin? Let’s put aside that Superman simply holding Lois’s hand, while it would keep her from liquefying on the pavement below, would really just mean she’d really just be dangling below him, not flying side by side.

"Wow, you can fly too?! Huh? Oh no, I'm not doing this."
“Wow, you can fly too?! Huh? Oh no, I’m not doing this.”

That’s a problem that defies all physics, but in a film with a flying, omnipotent God-like being at its center, science waved “bye-bye” long ago. No, the problem is we have a sodding poem, via voice over, spoken by our favorite cynical, hard-boiled reporter, Lois Lane. She shifts from a hardened, career woman to a swooning, giggly, teeny-bopper in the span of a few moments. What’s worse, and this is critical, is this a terrible, terrible poem. Sample dialogue: “I don’t know who you are, just a friend from another star.” and “Here I am, like a kid out school, holding hands with a God. I’m a fool.” If Superman could have heard this, he’d probably have dropped her in disgust, because this schlock is enough to make “roses are red, violets are blue” sound like Keats and Byron and Dickinson all rolled into one.

"Yeah, I've gotta drop you now. That was dreadful."
“Yeah, I’ve gotta drop you now. That was dreadful.”

I know it was originally meant to be a song, sung by Kidder herself, which is even more horrifying. All it took for Donner to nix that idea was actually hearing Kidder sing, and he decided that the only solution was to have the song’s lyrics spoken. Why he didn’t just decide to, I don’t know, not have anything sung or spoken at all is anyone’s guess. As lyrics they’re dreadful, but as a poem, they’re hide your face in the sand humiliating.

Instead, we’re left with the knowledge that at one point it was going to be perfectly fine for a musical number (A musical number! We’re grasping at reality straws as it is like they’re precious, golden nuggets. Why rip them from our hands?) to suddenly rear its singing head in a Superman film, and the knowledge that Lois can apparently spout poems at the drop of a hat. Isn’t it a shame they never went back to that Lois Lane skill again?

"'...when we're out together, flying, cheek to cheek.' Sorry, I don't know what came over me."
“‘…when we’re out together, flying, cheek to cheek.’ Sorry, I don’t know what came over me.”

Superman is a hard enough character to take seriously as it is, what with his boy scout ideals and near-invulnerability (except for kryptonite, a rare substance that still seems pop up every day). Adding a musical number or a freakin’ poem takes a campy premise and dolls it up in fishnets and a corset. We’ve already got a guy flying around in a cape and underwear. Is it too much to ask that he not inspire literal poetry from the women he meets?

So, what do you think? Am I being too hard on this scene? Do you hate it as much as we do? Is there another scene/ film you’d like us to cover? Let us know in the comments!

16 comments

  1. Yes you are. The reason turns into a little school girl around Superman is that no man ever meets up to her standards. Lois has always been bigger than life and men are always intimidated by that. She is described as a super model who does not care that she looks that way. She is the daughter of a General who raised her to be like a boy. So when Superman shows up, he is the alpha male of the planet. The only man to catch her eye at all. In canon, they instantly fall in love with each other on first sight. So, during that flight, it is the first time in her life she lets the woman out. And in canon, she gets week kneed around Superman and lets the woman in her out. The lines of the poem are what is going through her head as she is flying with him as she is falling head over heels for him. And yes it was supposed to be sung by Kidder, and Donner she did sing it and had a great voice. But he had her red the lines instead as the singing pulled you out of the scene, where her saying the lines gives you an insight into what is going through her mind at the moment. Also the line “you’ve got me. Who’s got you?” does not come at the end of the interview. It comes during the helicopter scene after she thinks she is falling to her death and this man grabs her in mid air and tells her “Don’t worry Miss. I’ve got you.” and that is when she says “You’ve got me? Who’s got you?”

    1. You’re right about the placement of the iconic “you’ve got me” line. I should have researched the film, but I found sources that have said Donner didn’t like her voice, that’s why it was made spoken word. I’m glad you like the scene, & I get what you’re saying about Lois & her Superman encounter, but that’s no reason for her to rhyme. I still think it’s more absurdity than a film about a flying man in tights can take. We all have our own opinions, but I still think the scene sucks.

      1. I know this is so late, but why keep saying “the scene” rather than “the poem.” That sequence is much more than that one little part. It’s true I feel that ur full article shows that ur outlook may be a little too cynical to appreciate what made the scene or movie iconic in the first place so the extent u hate that part feels a little extreme. Can’t we say “yeah the poem was a little much but otherwise I get the magic of the rest?” If u can’t, then ur issues go beyond the poem. The fantastic & romantic mythology altogether may just not be ur cup of tea if thats the case…

  2. Worst doggerel ever committed to paper/celluloid. This is supposed to be a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and writer… and THAT’S what she’s supposed to have come up with. A touch of voice-over dialogue expressing her thoughts could have worked, maybe, but that god-awful poem is the utter low point of the movie and had everyone in the audience grimacing and shaking their head.

  3. As a complete Superman fanatic c’mon guys Superman is a fantasy and a great one for all times and all of us. Isn’t is just plain fun to suspend all rationality and just enjoy the ride? I mean, does anyone really think all Superman has to do is put on a pair of glasses and no one will know who he is? I can’t speak for others but its always fun to be spoofed! I want to believe Clark Kent and Superman are 2 different people even though I know they aren’t…lol.

  4. I know I’m more than 3 years fashionably late to this party but, does anyone have a clue who the female newscaster is played by right before the “who’s got you?” Line? Btw, I hate lois’s poetry too.

  5. I know I’m SIX years late but damn, this article was hilarious! I too hate that scene and just wanted to see if there were others. Glad to know I’m not alone.

  6. Just rewatched this for the first time since I was a kid. The poem was so bad it was embarrassing. The movie over all was charming, though lots of people getting kissed while unconscious, which is pretty creepy.

  7. Eight years late. After having first seen this film somewhere around 40 years ago, I had not realized until reading this article that Lois was reciting a poem.

  8. Oh POOP! Go find something important to grouse about – like the … which makes filenames on a mac undecipherable, and revel in this: if such a ground-breaking award- winning phenomenon as this delightful Mario Puzo-penned film can survive such an egregious flaw as this schoolgirl lyric, there’s hope for all us flawed aspirants!

  9. I see it both ways. It really is a fun-fantasy-archetype that goes all the way back to the ancient myths of the hero rescuing the maid from the terrible threats, and all that. And yes, the science is suspended (a human(oid) being can fly, with another human flying beside him, apperantly suspended by his fingertips. Yet there is a certain magic in the story which taps into all those archetypes. And to the cold logic of 20th-21st century eyes it doesn’t play out against our understanding of reality. We are, after all, far from the childlike wonder of that child that was once inside us. So it goes. On the other hand, while Mario Puzo was apparently excellent at crafting (screen) dialogue that came out of the mouths of organized crime figures (“I’ll make him an offer he can’t refuse,” etc.), when it came to a Hollywood storybook romance scene’s dialogue for a strong, independent, self-aware woman, not so much, perhaps. Within the larger fantasy, a touch of another kind of fantasy came to the party, and while it was smarmily pleasing to some, others found it less than sophomoric, and, frankly, creepy. I wish we could sit down with both luminous actors, now deceased, and get their takes on it. I bet there would be much laughter.

  10. “Where do you want me to begin? Let’s put aside that Superman simply holding Lois’s hand, while it would keep her from liquefying on the pavement below, would really just mean she’d really just be dangling below him, not flying side by side.”

    OKAY.
    It’s made *clear from the start,* from Lara’s lines to Jor-El at the “Death of Krypton,” scenes, that Superman would learn to DEFY Earth-gravity– and we see that this is true not just for himself, but for everything he TOUCHES.
    That was clearly shown, when Superman allows Lois to fly, even by just touching her littlest finger– but the instant contact breaks, she FALLS, and superman has to go. Obviously he can defy gravity in ANY object he touches. No break in continuity.
    Just like when he catches the falling helicopter by one skid, and it doesn’t break; or he lifts an entire bad guys’ yacht and lands it in Metropolis square, or lifts the San Andreas Fault….. or when he even spins the entire Earth backwards– and stops time thereby.
    Yes, that is all a take on Greek Mythology, where Hercules performs various tasks, and ultimately saves Megara from Hades– also shown in the Disney film; but with Superman, it’s done in the comic-book genre of science-fiction, not magic, which is something quite different in comic books.

    As for the poem, we see in the start that Lois is very cynical, and disappointed in men in the liberal 70’s; then she finally meets her match in a super-conservative ideal man, who makes her question everything she believed.

  11. ELEVEN years late to the party. LOVE the scene. If you hate it and want to see better, then come on, make something better. It’s not like you’re coming up with any constructive ideas (even after all this time), it’s just you giving us your opinion but then stopping short of supplying anything that could improve it. How many dazzling, glittering romances do we see in the middle of superhero films?

    Truth told, I used to not enjoy the flight scene either. It was a good time to get more popcorn. But today, much older, looking maybe at life’s victory lap, I see I am truly very much blessed, one of the luckiest men there is. Not Christopher-Reeve-lucky, with a fantastic physique and a sharp intellect and I’m absolutely perfectly cast in my role as Superman and Margot Kidder is absolutely perfectly cast as my leading lady, but in the end I fall off my horse and it’s all gone in an instant. I didn’t have his kind of luck.

    Me, I fell in love with my soulmate. Took me a decade to realize it, but now here we are. We just celebrated our twenty-fifth wedding anniversary. Don’t know how many we have left, but the greatest thing I can do is spend every minute I have on her. And for damned certain, if I could take her up into the sky, soar like two birds far above the city grime and the comic book villains who for real run our world today, don’t you think I would? Isn’t that maybe the most precious thing you can do, to reduce the entire world to just me and just you, and she becomes my universe and I am her hero?

    I challenge you, if you can do better than that, please, please do. 2024 needs love. I look forward to whatever you can contribute!

  12. Too hard on it. Recently re-watched it too & I think ur throwing the baby out with the bathwater here. It’s kind of an iconic scene & u “loathe” it becuz of one little part that at worst made me chuckle a bit. The magic of the scene overall came across though. It felt old-fashioned in the good way. In the way where we don’t allow ourselves fairy tales anymore & the flirting between superman & Lois is imo the glue that makes those movies work. I think the reason the cavill movies don’t work is they completely omitted the “lois & Clark” of it all. She’s a solid no nonsense reporter, so seeing her let her walls down & feel giddy like a schoolgirl was a feature not a bug. We know she’s not just some silly lovesick puppy, so the fact that superman has that effect on her is fun to watch. I know this article is 10years old but even now I think ur being too hard on it. Even while I acknowledge that that part kinda sounded corny. The rest of the scene works so no need to loathe it. Also u messed up where the “uve got me, I’ve got u” line goes. That’s when she first meets him & he’s saving her not during this scene.

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