There are 17 months standing between us and the release of the Man of Steel sequel, which we’re just calling Batman Vs. Superman until they give us an official title. Outside of some crowd footage shot at a college football game in October, they haven’t started filming yet. Heck, the script isn’t done, as indicated by Warner Bros. bringing in Argo screenwriter Chris Terrio to perform re-writes on David S. Goyer’s original draft. Basically, they’re still in the midst of pre-production, having yet to even cast a villain (or villains) for the movie (despite all that talk about Jason Momoa, he has not been officially announced as being cast in the movie).
Given the deep love, though, many have for either Batman or Superman or both the thirst for knowledge about this movie will pretty much be unquenchable until we finally reach the point where it’s done and released in theaters. As a result, we are going to be absolutely buried in rumors before all is said and done. Of course, shouldn’t we just ignore them and wait for the finished film to reveal all of its unspoiled surprises? Well, obviously, but have you met the internet?
Earlier this week, a bevy of rumors popped up, chief among them:
RUMOR: Wonder Woman will be a descendent of the Kryptonians in Batman Vs. Superman:
“I’d bet a year’s pay – in MONOPOLY money, of course – that the ‘Amazons’ of this cinematic DCU will be descendants of those ‘ancient Kryptonians’ who attempted to set up Kryptonian outposts throughout spacedom thousands and thousands of years ago. Furthermore, I say that Wonder Woman will be powered-down, if you will, relative to Superman because these Amazons have evolved and adapted to living on Earth for hundreds of centuries. And since Kryptonians are produced without any “He’n and She’n” – Jor El and Lara excluded – couldn’t this original Kryptonian on Earth have used this reproductive science to create an all-female race? I say yes!”
ARE THEY A RELIABLE SOURCE?: They seem to be wrong just as often as they are right. For example, they’ve been predicting a Batman Beyond-style Batman film for quite a while now despite being continually proven wrong.
In the source article, BatmanOnFilm provided answers to questions posed in reader e-mails. Beyond the Wonder Woman thing:
- Is Lex Luthor in the movie? Is there another villian? “Yes. And sorry, I’m not at liberty to reveal the ID of the other villain at this time…but the character is highly rumored to be in the film.” That would indicate the other villain will be Doomsday.
- Has Momoa been cast to maybe play a Justice League member like Martian Manhunter or Aquaman? “Nope and nope. Neither of those characters are in this film.”
- Is this becoming in every way other than the title a glorified Justice League movie instead of a proper Man of Steel sequel? “NOPE. It’s a Superman film – a Superman film that just so happens to include Batman and Wonder Woman – but a Superman film nonetheless.”
- How much screen time will Wonder Woman get? “On par with Scarlett Johansson’s first appearance as Black Widow in IRON MAN 2.”
Now, some of this flies in the face of what other sources have been reporting, and it’s worth noting that in a later response in the article BoF claims the new batsuit will feature Batman Beyond-like capabilities, which directly contradicts what every other source has said to this point. However, at the same time, some of it also corresponds to what many of us (myself included) had already guessed,namely the comparison of Wonder Woman in this movie to Black Widow in Iron Man 2. From all of it, though, the most headline-grabbing tidbit is BoF’s speculation as to a planned alternate origin for Wonder Woman in this film.
Devin Faraci of BadAssDigest.com pretty well summed up why some might take offense to making Wonder Woman a Kryptonian:
“How could you make Wonder Woman, an Amazonian princess with incredible abilities and a rich history all her own based in a cool world of Greek myth, clearly subservient to the male superheroes in Batman vs Superman? By making her Supergirl, more or less, a Kryptonian whose power levels are lower than Superman’s.”
Well, at this point the matter is entirely academic. Since BoF’s original report, BadAssDigest (a more reliable source) has confirmed that the proposed alternate take on Wonder Woman is not being used in Batman Vs. Superman. To be fair, though, BoF never claimed the “Wonder Woman is Kryptonian” thing was official or based upon any kind of inside intel. Unlike some of the other spoilers they reported, that one was clearly 100% their guess as to what might happen.
Here’s the thing: Wonder Woman’s origin is always going to present huge challenges to live-action adaptation. In the classic mythology, Wonder Woman was freakin’ formed out of clay; in the new 52 mythology, she is the bastard daughter of Zeus, and the “formed out of clay” thing was a lie she’d been led to believe most of her life. There is an element in the latter which worked beautifully with Loki in the first Thor, but even though it turned out he secretly had blue skin and was a mini version of something called a frost giant Loki’s “bastard son” tale translate better than a woman who was, and I repeat, at one point believed to have simply been created out of clay.
Making her entire race of Amazonians simply descendants of ancient Kryptonians is not an altogether terrible idea in terms of effectively streamlining the plot and more seamlessly integrating Wonder Woman into the narrative. However, it does inherently undercut the entire finale of Man of Steel in which Superman’s killing of Zod is presented as so tragic because in so doing he knew he was making himself the last son of Krypton. Plus, why in the world didn’t these Amazonians come out of hiding to help Superman, as Zod’s plan to terraform the Earth would have threatened them just as well as everyone else. Perhaps most offensive, though, was the suggestion that she’d be a somehow de-powered version of Wonder Woman in relation to Superman. No, take that noise back to the drawing table. She is not inferior but instead an equal to Superman.
What would you do, though? Since Marvel was able to pull off Thor, do you think a faithful adaptation of Wonder Woman’s comic book back story could work on film? Or do you think this potential solution suggested by BoF actually had some potential? Ultimately, the true solution is that Wonder Woman’s story is so complicated she needs her own origin story film, ala Thor, not just getting shoehorned into a Batman/Superman movie. However, that ship has sailed at this point. Let us know what you think in the comments section.
Also, in the future, whenever a new Batman Vs. Superman rumor pops up let’s remember how pretty much every single crazy rumor about The Dark Knight Rises turned out to be false. That is, of course, until they actually started filming the movie, at which point the “Liam Neeson has a cameo” and “Marion Cotillard is secretly playing Talia al Guhl” rumors started. So, until Batman Vs. Superman starts filming most rumors can be debated for fun but not taken all too seriously.
Batman Vs. Superman (official title pending) is currently scheduled to come out July 7, 2015. Man of Steel stars Henry Cavill, Amy Adams, Diane Lane, and Laurence Fishbourne are all confirmed to be returning, joined by Ben Affleck as Batman and Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman. Zack Snyder will again direct, this time from a script by David S. Goyer and Chris Terrior. It will be filmed predominantly in Detroit, Michigan, with an in-state budget of $130 million though its total budget incorporating out-of-state shooting and post-production is unknown.